Wednesday, June 20, 2007

American Film Institute Loves the Kane

The final scores: John, 24; Jared, 28, Brian, 38. Woot.

My final thoughts? I'm impressed at the way AFI members managed to mangle this one. My biggest beef is Rebel Without a Cause not being on the list. It has to be on the top 100 movies. It just has to. Other than that, I'm kinda curious what will happen 10 years down the road. I never would have figured that the the older movies would play bigger this time around. I'm not quite sure what that says about the AFI and their membership.

1.
Citizen Kane. Cinematically, brilliant and ahead of its time. Is it better than the Godfather? Debatable? But this list has so many more problems that I wouldnt even bother debating this. No Rebel Without a Cause?? How are there so few modern movies? Where's Goodburger? CMON! Gnight folks. Leave us your thoughts in the comments.

Citizen Kane at #1. I know that I'm supposed to argue against this, but what you know what? Screw it. It deserves to be #1. That's no knock against Casablanca or Godfather, but Citizen Kane is just a fantastically solid movie that holds up so well for so long. Well done, Citizen Kane. And AFI, for at least getting this one right


2.
Godfather. Well, this is how I would rank my top 2. Godfather probably ranks at the top of "Most stop channel surfing now" level, although its equally great to watch on TV. Even when its slow, its captivating. What else can be said? Jared?

Guess he's too busy counting up how much money I'm owed.

3.
Casablanca. Nailed it, again. I liked this movie the first time I saw it, but since then, I havent really had any desire to re-watch it. Maybe I just need a girlfriend to introduce it to. Any suggestions?

Well, this puts the game squarely in the hands of Brian, I think. Obviously enough, I disagree. I love Godfather to pieces, but personally, I'd take Casablanca over Godfather, both personally, and what it has meant to American cinema.

Jared, thats a bold choice.



4.
Raging Bull. Good for Scorcese. This list seems to get more and more random the closer we get to #1.

This is a pretty big overrate, if you ask me. This should be Rebel Without a Cause. No doubt in my mind.

5.
The best American movie musical, to fill out my top 2. Even though the ridicuous "Gotta Dance" interlude is too long and goofy, the Singin in the Rain scene makes up for it. The music isn't even all that special, but I like it.

Don't tell Brian I said this, but Singin' in the Rain isn't the best movie musical ever.

6.
Gone with the Wind. Jared and I are terrible movie buffs. We havent seen this either...and I own it. I like that line "Frankly my dear....Let's get back together." Thats how the Simpsons told me it happened.

Brian and I decided our scoring system was a little off. You can be sure I'll bring up this point if I end up losing. Otherwise, frankly my dear(s), I don't give a damn.

7.
Lawrence of Arabia. I love me some David Lean epics, and this is the best of them all. And still culturally relevant. A bit too long, but it made me appreciate Peter O'Toole a helluva lot. This, along with My Favorite Year.

from john: "lawrence of arabia- perhaps the best british film of all time?
maybe it had an american editor or something"
brian and I saw Lawrence of Arabia at the AFI Silver Theatre. We are that cool.

8.
Schindler's List. I am a terrible Jew. No, I didnt make out during Schindler's List. I've never seen it.

Some bonus points here for Jared, but will it be enough? The way this list is turning out, probably not. I've never seen Schindler's List, due to a variety of circumstances that seem always set against me

9.
Vertigo sucks. Sorry; it's boring. Kim Novak is hideous. The plot is frustrating. and Jimmy Stewart overacts as he usually does. The supposedly fantastic effect where Kim Novak comes out of the Green is cheesy by today's standards. Im pissed.

How is Vertigo 9? In what world? Seriously? What happened to this list?

10.
The Wizard of Oz comes in at 10, which is well deserved. There's really no explaining where any of these movies place, so whatever. Hard to believe how well it holds up after 70 years, though.

According
to the voice of God, AKA Morgan Freeman, only one of the top 10 movies held the same spot. In other words, Jared is screwed.

11.
City Lights. Is the AFI trying to prove its irrelevance? Two silent films in the top 25, and three Chaplin films in the 100? How about making yourself intriguing to anyone born past 1960?

so, um, who would have guessed the top 25 would have an later average release date than 10 years ago. How does that make sense?

12.
SUCK IT SCHOLLE! Of course The Searchers is making an 80 point leap. This movie is so racist, and so overrated, but people who love westerns love this movie. Also people who think John Wayne is a great actor love this movie. Both groups are wrong.

I wish you all could have experienced the sheer joy Brian exuded when The Searchers was announced.

13.
Star Wars. No complaints here, although I would have liked to ahve seen it higher, mostly for its widespread influence.

Really, what's left to say about Star Wars? Other than that I can't believe I forgot to TiVo that Robot Chicken Star Wars


14.
I cant imagine what it would have been like to ahve seen Psycho without knowing the twist. Same deal with Planet of the Apes, but I feel robbed by not getting to watch the final reveal knowing nothing. Also the shower scene. Why did i have to know so much?

Psycho is a movie that I always think is overrated. Until I watch it again, and I realize just why everyone likes it so much.

15.
Duhhhhh....Dehhhhhhhhh.....Dahhhhhhhhhhhh. DAH dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. 2001 is on the list. Cmon, where's The Searchers??

2001 is a terrible movie. Repeat after me, people. Just because a movie is artsy, that doesn't mean it is good. I just don't understand how 2001 belongs this high. How many movies are direct descendants? Boo.
John says 2001 is the most overrated movie of all time, and I may not disagree



16.
Sunset Boulevard. Again, no real desire to see it...everything about is uninteresting to me.

I found Sunset Blvd. a little too...cute? for its own good. It is OK movie, and gets point for the jabs at Hollywood, its age, and its quotes, but I dunno.

17.
Mostly because of the soundtrack, and Katherine Ross' general hottness, I like The Graduate a lot.

I saw a production of The Graduate in Miami...let me tell you, I appreciate the movie a lot more now. Still, I think that the soundtrack makes it a little more revered than maybe it should be

18.
The General. Sure, I guess you need a Buster Keaton on the top 100 list. But this is absurd. Did anyone younger than 70-years-old vote in the poll?

18? AFI has their shocker, I guess. But wow. Who could have guessed that?

19.
On the Waterfront. We are terrible movie buffs. We havent seen this movie either. We coulda had class.

I think that invalidates what tenuous claim to being movie buffs we have. Especially since, you know, Brian owns this movie.

20.
It's a Wonderful Life. I'm too busy eating Chinese food and watching new releases at the movie theater to ever watch this Christmas classic. Jared, no one will hurt you because you're Jewish.

I'm ashamed to admit it, but I've never seen this movie. Please don't hurt me?

21.
Chinatown. Jared and I just saw this...neither of us were that impressed. L.A. Confidential was a better update with better acting and no incestual plotlines.

Chinatown? Eh. Probably the most overrated movie on the list.

22.
Some Like it Hot is still funny, nearly 50 years after it came out. Some people still have taste, fortunately. The sepia-interviews are sad, though. Jack Lemmon was the man.

What?!?! Some Like it Hot is THE acceptable comedy to like as a classic. As such, it deserves to be higher up the list. It works on basically every level. And I made a Some Like it Hot reference earlier this week. That should count for something

23.
No real desire to see Grapes of Wrath, although it is the 23rd best movie ever, so maybe I should.

Grapes of Wrath is the first movie I cut from last time's top 25. Maybe I should see the movie before it gets me again ten years down the road

24.
Neither Jared nor I thought ET would make it. I';m still bitter that Steven Speilberg took the guns out of the officers hands at the end. What a wusstastic move.

I think we are all surprised E.T. stays up there. I dunno, I just don't think people talk about it as much anymore. Don't worry, Drew Barrymore is maybe 5 years too young for Brian in the movie.

25.
I nailed this one. To Kill a Mockingbird. Quality film, and of course its the 25th best movie ever. Another trivia moment: Robert Duvall's first movie. And the kid who played Scout was pretty good.

Man, Brian nails #25. Can't say that's the way I wanted to start this thing

29-26
Double Indemnity. The only time I've heard of this movie is on stupid AFI lists. That shouldnt count!

Is there a secret society of people who do nothing but watch Double Indemnity? Because I know almost no one who has even really heard much about this movie

All About Eve, and my top 25 picks are dropping like flies. I only know one thing about eve, and that's her bumpy ride line. Thanks ADD!

Brian just misses out on a couple of movies, and those points could be pretty crucial as we approach the all-important top 25. All I have to say about All About Eve, is that I can never remember if I've seen it. That can't be a good sign.

Jared, you can't remember anything. Although I am incapable of picking hte top 25, since I had High Noon in there too. This is one of Tony Soprano's favorites, Gary Cooper being the strong silent type and all.

I've nothing to say about High Noon. Other than my now-standard, "Remember when people made westerns?" Oh, and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is a fantastic movie, but not eligible here, obviously

The AFI is so xenophobic, man...why they gotta be so American? Where's my 8 1/2? Following a commercial break, we're gearing up for lots of point counting with #26, then the money.

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. It's so gosh darn idealistic, that it is difficult to watch nowadays without rolling your eyes and falling asleep. Great for its time, I guess.

I'm sorry, but Mr. Smith Goes to Washington just isn't that great a movie. Stop saying it is!
TOP 25 TIME!!!


34-30 Snow White...now this is the kind of movie that I want to hear John Lasseter talk about. None of this screwball shiz.

I'm glad Disney made it on this list somewhere, but I do see how Disney is more an accumulation of movies than any one specific one.

One flew east...one flew west....One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. This is part 2 of 3 of my favorite trivia question ever (sweeping the oscars) (part 3 is Silence of the Lambs). Never seen this either.

For the record, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is a pretty fantastic book. You all should read it.

GF2. How is this not in the Top 25?? BOOOO. Look, there are logical people who say that GF2 is better than the first godfather. So how can this rank so far below where the first Godfather will rank? I knew it was you Fredo!

heehee, Brian is so sad that Godfather II fell. I'm sure Adam will be as well. Sorry guys, it was never going to happen.

Maltese Falcon. I havent seen this in a long time, but I like Peter Lorre a lot...and Bogart is usually worth his reputation.

I absolutely agree with this ranking in the sense that Maltese Falcon wasn't that great a movie, so it shouldn't get top 25. But I totally get what it has meant for cinema.

Apocalypse Now. I totally dont remember Harrison Ford being in Apocalypse Now...but then again, I miscomprehended Heart of Darkness so much that I think I overthought the movie when I first saw it. The Napalm scene is still cuhlassic.

I was going to add it to my queue, but it was already there! Thanks, past Jared.

From John: "wow. this is a great year for me. first I won time's person of the year, then the head of the afi says I'm the most important person in supporting film"




35-39
Dr. Strangelove is so good...and it deserves so much more respect than 39. Sad. When a movie makes you laugh during the few clips they show, even in clips you've seen 10 times over, you know its quality.

My third predicted top 25 movie falls here. Which is sad. Dr. Strangelove is such a great movie.

Badges, we don't need no stinkin badges. They're just using the same clips they used for the 100 quotes show. This time, its for Treasure of Sierra Madre.

Who would have guessed Mel Brooks would give the commentary on Treasure of the Sierra Madre? Not me.

I'm getting depressed now....I havent seen Best Years of our Lives either....I thought that by now I'd have seen a majority of the films on the list.

You know, My Favorite Year is probably better than The Best Years of Our Lives

Bridge on the River Kwai. HEY, how about a spoiler alert, Sir Ben Kingsley?! Just because you've been knighted you think you can ruin the ending of a great classic? Boo. And I never would have picked Spike Lee as the commentator for a David Lean epic.

Wow, huge drop here. I should have had the guts to take it off my top 25. But I've never seen it, so I figured maybe I was missing something.

Annie Hall is the precursor to the great romantic comedies that Jared loves, so its kind of funny that he doesnt like it that much. This is a good spot for it though.

Awww, Annie Hall. You aren't as great a movie as people think you are, but I'm forever indebted to you for the movies you spawned.

44-40 No sepia tones for Charlton Heston to talk about Philadelphia Story? That's cause they're afraid that he's going to shoot them.

What the hell accent does Katherine Hepburn have? That isn't real, I'm sorry.

Another movie that I want to see, but that i've heard is really dated is Midnight Cowboy.

Thanks to all the various trivia I've done, Midnight Cowboy and X will forever be linked together.

Gene Hackman, Faye Dunaway, and Warren Beatty. I haven't seen Bonnie and Clyde yet...why??

Brian and I have been trying to see Bonnie and Clyde for like five years now, I think. That's sad on so many levels.

King Kong comes and goes pretty fast. Kind of like the dreadful sequel that Jack Black single-handedly ruined.

For the record, Sound of Music is not on my list of top 2 movie musicals ever. Probably top 5, however.

In that segue between King Kong and Sound of Music, it looked like Kong was going to eat Julie Andrews. That would have been sweet.

49-45: This is kind of a ridiculous jump for a movie that wasnt on last decade's 100. I think the AFI cooked the books. Maybe Intolerance is good, but it looked goofy in the segments they aired.

Grace Kelly is so hot in Rear Window, and thank god the overall movie was so good that it blocked out my memories of Prof. Edelman at Tufts telling us how this movie is about anal sex. Professa, please.

I have a bias toward movies with only a couple sets. Hence my love for 12 Angry Men, Phone Booth, and Rear Window. I love that Rear Window was able to be made


Streetcar Named Desire....which will always bring back thoughts of the Simpsons musical. A great early episode from the show. I'll take Jared's word for the quality of it.

Streetcar, is the one exception. Wow, is it bad.

Happened One Night. John Lasseter here again to talk about how funny a screwball comedy is...if I hadnt seen all the Pixar films, I'd think that he has no sense of humor. It's also my favorite trivia question of movies that swept the Oscars.

I feel like a bad person for not having seen It Happened One Night.

SHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane. No real thoughts on this one.

All I really know about Shane is that Mad Magazine, when I actually had a subscription to it, has this hilarious spoof of it. At least, it was hilarious at the time.

54-50 I got MASH a year ago as a gift. Still haven't seen it. Probably should. Oops.

People, watch M*A*S*H again. The movie definitely does not hold up well. At all. The theme, though, "Suicide is Painless" is so much better than the theme to the TV show. I'll give it that.

I'm going to echo Jared here. People, watch Deer Hunter again and see if you can get through the first hour without falling asleep. It is so dreadfully boring and just unwatchable. The latter parts are sometimes riveting, and Walken is good, but half a movie does not a classic make.

If Christopher Walken is in a movie, I'll watch it. No questions asked.

I've never seen Taxi Driver, and neither has Jared, so while I can't speak for him, I know that I would totally kill to get Jodie Foster from that film.

Taxi Driver is one of those movies I keep telling myself I should see, but never while I'm near a computer so I can put it on my queue. Oh. Wait.

I am not ashamed to say that West Side Story is one of the top 2 movie musicals ever made...and its insane that this isnt higher on the list.

I almost had West Side Story on my personal Top 25 ballot. That stupid live action short winning the Oscar aside. Yes, I'm still bitter.

Morgan pops in to give us an update at #50: First Lord of the Rings, my friend. Ha! This is why I didnt add it to my ballot, because who knew whether it would be the first. Commence Jared rant...now:

ok, so you have two movies in a particular trilogy that are generally considered better. One has a larger box office, more Oscars, and an higher imdb.com rating. How on earth do you not pick that one for your list? That makes absolutely no sense, AFI. None at all. Why even bother with criteria? Seriously, that's absolutely dreadful. How can we trust any other selection you make if you can't make this incredibly obvious one? It took me 15 seconds to find the relevant information. Just because "Fellowship of the Ring" has "Ring" in it? Poor form.


55-59
Nashville is the kind of movie that the more I see of it, the more I think I might like it. But I never do.

Then there's more Chaplin with Gold Rush. AFI loves its old time comedy. Methinks Austin Powers isnt making the top 100.


You know, Chaplin is great and all, but 20 years from now, how many people could actually name The Gold Rush as a movie separate from just Charlie Chaplin the character

YO ADRIAN! Rocky flies high at 57.

Lord, Rocky is such a good movie. And Sly wrote it! Seriously, though, it should be higher, but that the AFI even put it this high says a lot, I think.

The original blockbuster. Jaws. It holds up really well, I have to admit.

Dun dun. Dun dun. Dun dun. Dun dun dun dun dun dun!

Jared, aren't you tone deaf? The first Hitchcock clocks in here with North by Northwest, which is also my favorite of his films. Great score....and Martin Landau is a brilliant henchman. Yay.

Someone claims "North by Northwest" is the most entertaining Hitchcock movie. That's kind of a bold statement, I think. It is great, don't get me wrong. But most entertaining? Strangers on a Train? Rope is pretty accessible, I think. I dunno. John says it is absolutely criminal that North by Northwest fell so much.

64-60 Faye Dunaway was kind of a knockout in Network, a movie that was too dark, but
fascinating and fun nonetheless. I agree with Jared's sentiment below.

Network is a great idea executed poorly. Had it been made today, in the right hands, I think it would have been much better. (Sorry, Mom!)

Is this All that Jazz? or Chicago? Fosse? Nah, it's Cabaret.

[sheepishly admits he really likes Cabaret] So, uh...let's chug some beer or look at porn or something.

American Graffiti. George Lucas makes the hard sell, telling us that it has no plot, no characters.

Everyone loves Preston Sturges...but yet, ive never had the desire to see one of his movies. Jared gives a lukewarm review of Sullivan's Travels.

Sullivan's Travels! My mom actually forced my entire family to watch this movie, mostly because she knew that this is the movie from which O Brother, Where Art Thou? got its title. To be fair, it is actually a pretty decent movie.

More Marx brothers brings Duck Soup in at #60.

More Marx Brothers! You get classy, America.


65-69.
And then Tootsie is one of those movies that makes you glad you grew up in the 90s. What a bizarre inclusion on the new list....maybe the AFI 100 Comedies was an influence. Dustin Hoffman is tearing up...about Tootsie? Really?

Tootsie is a really really bad movie. Why can't people realize that? I understand the premise was great and all, but wow. Just an unenjoyable movie. John claims Dustin Hoffman is high during his interview, and you know what? I'm inclined to believe him.

Unforgiven. Damn...I really thought I had this one locked up by this point. Old people love their westerns, however.

I'm glad these Westerns are so high, but I'm still thinking that 10 years from now, they will drop like the body of a guy who loses a shootout.

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? ME! Me!

Virginia Woolf sucks, and this movie sucks for reminding me of her.

Raiders of the Lost Ark. As with most of the movies on this list that came out after 1980, this should be higher. But it's good to see Harrison Ford with hair again. Makes me think that he has potential to not ruin IJ4.

African Queen. More sepia toned interviews, this time with Anne Bancroft. Sad. Never seen the movie. This has to be the winner for the big drop, with a plus-50 fall. Jared loses another potential point.

Yeah, the African Queen deserved to drop this much. I didn't think the AFI had the balls for it. Also, what did people ever see in Katherine Hepburn? She's always looked like a skeleton to me.

74-70 May I talk for a moment about how fine Jodie Foster is? Especially in her older age? Sammy might even call her a cougar. But sadly, she's unavailable to me. And no, its not because she's a lesbian, that's just crazy talk. Oh, and the 74th film is Silence of the Lambs.

You know, Silence of the Lambs is pretty good, but I think I'm going to assign it some blame for all the crappy procedurals on TV. Which pisses me off.

One of my top 5 movies ever: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Who are those guys?? Don't forget, this movie has not one, but TWO montages.

Butch Cassidy is one of the few movies I fell asleep while watching. To be fair, I believe that may have been a night Brian and I drunkenly stumbled home at 2 in the morning and decided it would be a good idea to watch a slow 70s movie.

Morgan Freeman lets me catch up before #73: Shawshank Redemption. A fantastic inclusion. It's on my top 5 "If its on TV while channel surfing, I will stop and watch it." list. An impressive leap from not being included last year.

Shawshank is one you should look at to rise for the next list 10 years down the road. A quality movie universally acknowledged as such, and extreme rewatchability

Two 90s movies in a row, and Brian gets his second "jump on" movie of the night with Saving Private Ryan. It's a World War II movie, of course its on the list.

Saving Private Ryan is our generation's war movie, and I'm not sure anything will be able to change that.

Never seen Clockwork Orange, and I'm kind of scared to see it, but since it brought Malcolm McDowell into our world, I gotta give it props.

A Clockwork Orange is one of those movies that makes you think maybe life was better in the 60s and 70s.

#75-79 The Wild Bunch Damn, I guess I need to see more movies.

The Wild Bunch? Interesting. Where have all the Westerns gone (long time passing)? Is Tom Selleck going to be the last of the cowboys?

Modern Times. There's the Chaplin movie for the list. Can't Complain

All the President's Men. Just saw this for the first time. Very quality, so much that I was disappointed when it ended. That hasn't happened to me in a while.

All the President's Men has such a great group of actors. I wonder, though, if today, they would have gotten Deep Throat to confess at the premiere of the movie, to boost the box office

Forrest Gump. I really wanted to pick this movie to drop off of the list, but I also really wanted to beat Jared. The more I watch this movie, the more I hate it.

So everyone knows, Brian thinks Forrest Gump is a blight on humanity.

Sorry....this movie is overrated. In the Heat of the Night. It's the movie that made me really dread the pacing of any movie made before 1980.

Sidney Poitier is cool and all, but wow. Overact much?

#80-84
Easy Rider rides in for #84. Ive heard that the movie is obscenely dated and not very good, which means I agree with Jared's next sentiment.

Is it wrong that I never had any inclination to see Easy Rider?

Titanic sails in next, and anytime I get to be vindicated by telling Jared that there was no way it cracked the back 20, is a good time to eat some pizza. And William Friedkin is smoking some crack like DiCaprio and Winslet are our Bogart and Hepburn? Whaaa?

OK, here's the thing about Titanic. I've never seen it. But let's look at the AFI criteria. Box office? Titanic is tops overall, and it isn't close. Oscars? 11, plus gaggles of other awards. Cultural import? I mean, how iconic is that "I'm the king of the world" scene? I understand the reluctance to have a recent movie finish close to the top, but come on, AFI. If you have criteria, you have to use it, otherwise, what's the point?

82. Sunrise. Um, ok. If you say so, AFI.

I'm not saying we know everything about movies, but if Brian and I haven't heard of a movie, how could it make this list? Isn't that counter to what the list stands for?

Who wants to claim to be next? I AM SPARTACUS.
How many people have seen Spartacus, and how many people just know that one scene? I'm guessing the latter is waaaaay larger than the former.

80. The Apartment Never seen it, again. Although I heard its more depressing than advertised. They've resorted to using old footage of Jack Lemmon. As if to remind us that he's dead, he is in sepia tones.

OK, that does it, The Apartment is going on my Netflix queue.


#85-89 Sixth Sense kicks things off, and Night talks about how awesome he is.

John Scholle would like everyone to know that he hates The Sixth Sense. As a fan of the Twilight Zone, I respect what M. Night did for twist endings. Speaking of which, you absolutely have to watch the music video for "Same Girl" (R. Kelly featuring Usher)

Scholle loses another bonus point with Bringing Up Baby. John Lasseter is lying right now. It is not a great comedy, because comedies have to be funny.

"The comedy in [Bringing Up Baby] is bigger than life?" Just like Mo'Nique!

12 Angry Men has gotta be a great movie, ive just never seen it. Should it be higher?

12 Angry Men belongs on any and every top 25. Wow. What a stud of a movie. I mean, I understand why it is so low here, really, how many movies are derivatives of it. But still. What a movie.

Platoon is a pretty good Vietnam movie, but isnt it just a remake of Apocalypse now?

John says the bad guy in Platoon looks like Carlton Fisk. I must see this movie now.

#85 brings Jared's biggest yoink of the night. I can't believe he called Night at the Opera.

A Night at the Opera! Wow. What a call! Thank you, thank you. But yeah, I mean, c'mon. The Marx Brothers? My theory was that they'd get on if only for backlash from new movies

#94-90 Last Picture Show comes next, which is perhaps the only thing that Peter Bogdanovich has become known for, other than his appearances on the Sopranos. But he's still somehow considered a film genius. I dunno.

Brian just hit on a 15 year old Cybill Shepard, for those who are keeping track at home

Dude, no way she's 15 in this clip. (Jared says she was probably 20.)

Pulp Fiction comes next. Jared loses out on his shot for the biggest jump category, and I actually wish he was right. Shyamalamadingdong is right when he says that it's the greatest movie of his generation. Brilliant.

Seriously, it is a travesty that Pulp Fiction didn't move up the list. The movie is exactly the type of recent film that the AFI would recognize as being "good." I mean, I guess it make the list, and that should be enough, but still. I'm bitter.

French Connection. Ah, our first William Friedkin appearance. Get used to him. And again, this movie deserves better treatment than being 93rd.

William Friedkin just called the French Connection chase scene a "metaphor." Yeah, a metaphor for the only reason people still talk about your stupid movie!

Whatever, Jared is just jealous of Gene Hackman. Goodfellas is the first back from the commercial break, and while it clearly deserves a higher ranking, at least they introduced it with the classic Copacabana scene.

Wow, a double whammy for Brian, with Goodfellas going this low. John and I were way off with our guesses for what would jump the highest.

Sophie's Choice is 91st, and the only thing I can think of now is "Sophie Changes Her Mind" as possibly the best trivia team name ever.

Swing Time is a movie that neither Jared nor I have heard of before. It's a crazy choice, because the person they had introduce it was the crazy of all crazies: Sharon Stone.

Swing time?!?!?!?! AFI didn't actually check anyone's list, did they?

#100-95:
Ben-Hur kicks it off, with a big drop from 72 last year. Then it's Toy Story, which is deservedly on this list. Although that probably counts out any chance for other recent animateds. Yankee Doodle Dandy stays on the list, which is a travesty since all three of us picked that to drop off from its previous spot at #100. Blade Runner comes next, which I've heard that Ridley Scott ruined with the director's cut. This true? Do the Right Thing comes in next, which is a surprisngly diverse pick from the curmudgeons at the AFI.

The great thing about gambling on something like this is the actual pain we all felt when Yankee Doodle Dandy was read. How many non-film majors under the age of 60 have spent more than 10 seconds thinking about this movie?


I'm pretty sure people have stopped writing actual scripts for Morgan Freeman when he hosts something, instead counting on people being hypnotized by his voice.


Opening Montage:
Ok, I love a montage more than practically anyone else I know. But this song is absolutely terrible, and hopefully misleading, because they just showed a clip of Return of the King and that's on Jared's ballot.

The opening music was so sappy that bette midler slapped whoever wrote it

Introduction: Hello to the two people out there reading this, but as things go here at 1410, we're liveblogging a television spectacle. This time around, its the AFI's re-issuing of the Top 100 Movies. Jared and I each already picked the movies we would have voted for on TTO and The Teev. We've also made our predictions, as has John Scholle. We'll update you on the scores as we go. Throughout this entire blog, italics denotes Jared

It's 7:56, the Nats are losing already, and we're almost at showtime. I'm pumped.

Sam Summer, pizza, and the prospect of taking Brian's money in some movie gambling. This is the life!

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So if Hillary is supposed to be Tony...

...then who is supposed to be AJ? Joe Biden? Ha, I kid.

Much of the political buzz this afternoon surrounded the parody the Clinton campaign produced of the Sopranos ending. The critical response has been generally positive, and it's baffling me. Unsurprisingly, I disagree wholeheartedly with Brunk, who giving "credit where credit is due," called it "possibly the coolest web stunt" pulled so far this year.

Dean Barnett over at Hughhewitt.com said it was hilarious.

From top to bottom, I can't figure out what people like about it. First off, why would you ever compare yourself to a sociopath like Tony Soprano, especially if you are running for President? Secondly, if one of the continuing memes of the campaign against your candidacy is that you are always fake and scripted, why would you put yourself in a web video where you're acting and reading a script. Third, and perhaps this is being a tad too picky, why include the random black dudes shot?

In the actual Sopranos ending, I saw the gang-banger shot as a joke of sorts to build up the tension, because of course Tony is going to assume the worst of two black guys. That was part of the show lore. Sure, the dudes in the Clinton parody were laughing around, but why bring back the memory of the earlier negative stereotype.

And the random Johnny Sack cameo?

Sure, Bill was funny, but the entire clip was stilted and forced -- two of the critiques that have had the most resonance on the Clinton campaign.

To make matters worse, they chose a CELINE DION song as the theme song. It'll be a long summer. And don't even get me started on the creepy, Stepfordian, yet irrestistably earnest Romney Christmas video.

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Monday, June 18, 2007

The AFI Has Run Out of Ideas...

So for the past 10 years, the American Film Institute has been shamelessly creating made-for-television specials counting down the 100 best movies, songs, villains, heroes, romances, comedies, etc... Some have been uber-lame (Cheers....way too few sports movies), and others have been pretty cool (quotes). But this year, they've run out of ideas, so they're updating their 100 Best Movies ever.

Jared and I will be going balls-to-the-wall with a liveblog coming at you Wednesday night. We also have a pick'em pool going, so if you are interested, let us know.

In advance, however, we decided to make a list of what we would have voted as the top 25 movies had we voted in the pool. The only rules were that we had to pick from the 400 movies (reg. required) placed on the ballot and that we had to use their criteria (Critical Commendation, Major Award Winner, Popularity Over Time, Historical Signifiance, Cultural Impact) as a guide in making our choices.

So...in alphabetical order, my Top 25:

All the President's Men
Bridge on the River Kwai
Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid
Citizen Kane
Dr. Strangelove
French Connection
Godfather
Godfather II
Goodfellas
Great Escape
LA Confidential
Lawrence of Arabia
LotR: FotR
Manchurian Candidate
North by Northwest
Pulp Fiction
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Rocky

The Right Stuff

Shawshank Redemption
Singin in the Rain
Star Wars
West Side Story
Usual Suspects
Wizard of Oz

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Sunday, June 10, 2007

Shish Kabob, what else do you need to know?

So I can't lead off this post with a "Wow" because the series finale of the Sopranos had no "wow" to it. The episode was good, and I appreciated some of the angles it took, but it was rather ordinary in terms of pacing and plot development. As I said before, David Chase doesn't do satisfying, and nothing showed that more than the finale.

That all said, I had no real problem with it.

In our Web 2.0 society, the capability of normal people to voice their opinions (in blogs such as these) and make their voice heard through citizen activism has created a sense of entitlement that I cannot stand. Bloggers and others (opinion anchors like O'Reilly) get indignant when something doesn't go their way, or someone doesn't agree to talk to them. It happens in politics, sports, and general entertainment. People feel that they are "owed" something or other just because of who they are.

There's a fundamental lack of respect for a person's political position or artistic vision, that the expert needs to cowtow to what people expect of them, just because. No real reason.

And to get back to the Sopranos, I'm not looking forward to the fans who will write that they felt "betrayed" by the anti-climactic ending. David Chase is a television visionary. Be happy that you were along for the ride, and express thanks for the years of quality television.

As for the episode, so it didn't go out with a big bang. The finale still wasn't a disaster. Life has come full circle for the Soprano family: AJ (whose military exploits I came very close to nailing in my predictions) is slowly becoming his father with a flashy car who complains about his dramatic mother; Meadow is perhaps even deeper in denial about the Mafia than Carmela; Tony is once again in legal trouble but is stronger because of his dutiful wife; the New York family is now in a peaceful arrangement with New Jersey; Janice is shrewd, greedy, and husbandless; and most importantly, the ducks are returning.

Everything that was old is new again, whether you like it or not.

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Friday, June 08, 2007

The Sopranos Comes to a Close

Well, this post comes a few days later than I had originally planned, but I've gotten to absorb everyone else's thoughts (Slate, all the TK guests, Shuppy, et. al.), and now below are my predictions. And I agree with the smart money: Tony lives.

To start, Tony dying is too much of a tight resolution to resolve the series. David Chase doesn't do "satisfying", to address what Coop said in the comments of my last post . While I don't think he will leave everything unresolved and up-in-the-air, if Tony were to be killed by Phil Leotardo and crew, that would be disturbing and frustrating. Phil has come in too late to the series to be the guy who throws down the final solution.

That last sentence rings true for a lot of people, which is why others think Paulie has flipped on Tony and he'll be the one to stab the boss in the back. Paulie is too weak-willed and frenetic to be trusted to carry out anything of that magnitude. With Sil's death, Paulie has to know he's the #2 (to Tony's chagrin), so why would he jeopardize that to be, at best, a 5th/6th guy in the hierarchy in the New York family. Phil is no Johnny Sack.

Not only will Tony survive, but he will be alone at the top, since he got rid of Phil (somehow). As Tony realizes that he only has Paulie (the incompetent, not Machiavellian Paulie that botched the Leotardo hit) as his counsel, he will feel resigned to his position. He can't leave the mob, but he doesn't want to stay in the mob. His Faustian bargain has done him in, and he is isolated with neither Melfi nor Carmela (who has finally left him for financial security).

Quick rundown of final fates:
  • AJ: Joins the Army, goes to Iraq.
  • Carmela: Leaves Tony, goes into real estate
  • Meadow: Patsy Parisi dies, his son takes up the business, Meadow realizes the bed she is making and leaves to live with Carmela. The Meadow dying scenarios are stupid, because David Chase would never want to associate himself with the stench of Godfather 3. That's like making a biopic of Janis Joplin and basing it on Glitter.
  • Paulie: Alive and still laughing.
  • Phil: Dead. As is his toadstool #2.
  • The Terrorists: A red herring, never to return. Like the Russian.
  • The Feds: Try to flip Tony, back to square one in the RICO case.
  • Janice: Distraught, but vows to be a strong single mother.

Did I miss anything?

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Monday, June 04, 2007

A couple of three things...

To quote the eminently quotable, and not-dead-yet Phil Leotardo (not Leonardo, because of the idiots at Ellis Island), a "couple of three things" about last night's episode of the Sopranos. Overall, I thought it was good, but not nearly as powerful as it could have been. If you're still reading here and haven't watched the show yet, you're an idiot. Stop reading.

But with the death of Bobby and near-death of Sil, I'd have thought Chase and Co. could have packed a couple of painful punches to the gut. Bobby's death scene was intentionally foreshadowed with the cell phone ringing in the car, so it made the train store scene difficult to watch...but it was more Scorcese-esque than a bonafide Sopranos scene. I loved the part with the train and the people covering their eyes.

Sil's (near) death was as sudden as Christopher's, but not all that surprising since they already took Bobby out. I'm torn here, because aren't I supposed to be more upset and shaken by the death of two major characters? Christopher's death was really shocking, but not so here. Anyone else feel the same?

Melfi's scenes were bizarelly shot, and I think really distracted from the overall episode. The zoom-in on the psych study was very weird and unnecessarily over-the-top, and the dinner scene with Dr. Kupferberg (?) was cartoonish. Kornheiser's "Colors of Benneton" reference was perfect for the scene, and neither Melfi or Kupferberg were in character. Besides, who goes to a social dinner with their shrink? That's just awkward.

The one thing I did like about Melfi's farewell to Tony was the reverse-godfather sequence with the doors shutting. Unlike Kay having the "Godfather" world shut down to her, in last night's ep, Tony has his enabler shut down to him. Or am I stretching here.

Other thoughts:
  • Tony draining the pool was a clear signal that bad stuff was about to go down. Throughout the show, the pool has been the symbol of rebirth/life in the Soprano household. The series started there with the ducks, the Soprano marriage was rekindled in the pool, and AJ's life was saved by Tony during the ill-fated pool suicide attempt.
  • That scene with Tony finally giving it to AJ was brutal. I'll say it again: Iler has been brilliant this season in showing AJ's patheticity (made up word, but I like it).
  • Great to see Artie Bucco show up again, although I dunno if he'll return for the final ep. His "constitutional law" line was typical Artie: feigning interest while looking like a tool.
  • The Mangini cameo was classy. I doubt that the NFL or the Jets approved that appearance.
My prediction for the final week? Check later this week for a Tony/Phil analysis...and predictions.

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Dessert first, dinner tomorrow

So the Sopranos was bone-chillingly brutal last night, but I want a night to ponder some things, because constitutional law (writing and all) is a tough nugget to crack.

Fortunately, Entourage came on afterwards and was the perfect after-dinner mint to the dark/heavy Sopranos. The plot line continues to focus on Medellin, and this time they brought in Adam Goldberg, playing a Jewish trust fund kid, and everyone's favorite psychotic director, Billy Walsh.

The entire "convince Walsh to do the movie" scene was fantastic. From Wally Balls (future nickname?) to the "midget porn" extras walking around to Walsh's vision for the future of porn, it was absolutely hilarious. The Entourage writers/directors are so good at making the absurd seem normal for Vinny Chase and co., and this episode was no exception.

Not nearly enough Ari this time around, although the previews for next episode is a good omen. I kind of wish something good would happen to them this season...I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that anyone as famous as the fictional Vince could ever be so stupid with his money. That's what he has Jewish agents and accountants for...

Did anyone watch the Adrian Grenier documentary about searching for his father? And does anyone out there actually care who his father is? Could they have picked any less of an interesting HBO star to go search for his father? I'd be surprised if Adrian is any deeper than Vince...or is that just crude type casting.

Check this space for Sopranos tomorrow.

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